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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: vortexmilkman on August 14, 2011, 01:26 pm
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Hi,
I wanted to start this forum for those clients of ours who did purchase from us, and continue to purchase from us. There are enough of you out there to clear up any confusion regarding our service. If any of you would like to speak up it would be appreciated.
Thanks
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All I know, is that I haven't read a single post anywhere
that said: "wow vortex has good product" or "his communication is great"
and I contacted you about 2 months ago and you only sell a minimum
of an ounce, and only out of escrow.
You don't have a good rep. You're going to have to earn it.
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Definitely appreciate your response. If you msg me I'll make you a deal. You could have some really good product within 48 Hours. If we are legit like we say you can be another customer who can endorse us on this page.
I have many consistent buyers but would definitely love more. Especially if they are looking for long term business relationships.
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This thread is hilarious.
I don't know about the rest of you, but my concerns have surely been mitigated.
lol.
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Bout to place an order w/ dude for a half g. He's working within escrow so there shouldn't be any issues. I got a scale and know coke pretty well, so I'll be sure to give a review on how it goes.
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there shouldn't be any issues
famous last words..
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I dunno guys...Why light him up? He hasn't requested direct payment or anything shady. If I don't see a package, I'll complain to SR and get my bitcoins back.
On the other hand, he has mostly positive feedback, and many people think his coke is top notch. I guess we'll know soon enough...
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An open letter to Vortex Milkman and warning its a fucking long post:
Dear VM,
I have tried to write this post three times since this thread was created, this is the forth time and either it is going to make sense or I'll simply screw it up. Here goes.
Before the Gawker publicity Silk Road only sporadically had cocaine for sale. Same goes for heroin. The one positive to come from Gawker was the advent of some solid coke vendors. We don't have many, but there has been a few who have attempted to scam me but was thwarted by the escrow system. Even after all the shit that has been said about you, and I admit some of it by me, I want to rate you as a solid vendor.
It doesn't matter what the vendor's reputation is, I always place a sample order through escrow (fully paid for) to test shipping, quality, etc. When you came on board however, very quickly you decided that escrow was not for you and insisted that all orders were paid for directly. Not only is this against the rules of the site, the buyers guide even states"
"NEVER go around the escrow and pay a vendor directly. We will be totally unable to protect you in this event and the vendor will have much less motivation to serve you well. People HAVE been scammed this way."
Now the last time I had to write something lengthy for this site was a complaint to SR about your use of the site. I have two other regular vendors who work 100% within the site boundaries. All escrow purchases pay for the running of the site, this means the buyers are paying the bills and SR is getting rich (allegedly) from the buyer's BTC's, not the vendors (vendor auctions excluded).
As a buyer I want more and more vendors on this site, which means more protection from potential scammers. When I see a vendor insisting on bypassing escrow I get annoyed. If the transaction ends badly, the reputation of SR diminishes and the potential to get new legitimate vendors diminishes.
I can see now as I type this, you have three products. Hopefully it is per gram through escrow and per Oz outside of escrow. (Similar to envious' setup) The third product, asking your old customers to buy nothing and give good feedback, is concerning. This type of shill feedback does nothing but breed more distrust. You could just setup random accounts and buy multiple feedback items to boost your feedback rating. I notice that your newest feedback is 9 days old, so to this date you haven't done this. Respect to you on this regard.
I do have an idea to increase your feedback, but it would take time, but it would be legitimate. If you are doing the right thing and allowing buyers to purchase through escrow, reply in this thread that you are running 100% within the site's regulations and I'll arrange some good feedback. Although all buyers feedback is equal, there is a way of making sure people know that a trusted (well I like to think I am) member is helping to fix the past.
So the question is put to you Vortex Milkman, are you legit and prepared to transact like most other vendors on the site?
Regards
Rake
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OK I'M PUT THIS SIMPLE AND SHORT.
If you purchase anything from VORTEXMILKMAN(82) outside of escrow you are a fucking fool and deserve what ever money/currency you lose.
Never by bulk from this guy, esp outside of escrow.
He has a reputation of 82%, That's B- in grade terms...also over half of that feedback that feeds his reputation ranking, is fake as Pamela Andersen's Breast's.
You've been warned.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Guys, he is working within the escrow system. We can drop the issue because it's not there :)
I noticed that he has in the past requested out of escrow payment, but I PMed him and he replied that he is now within the system. So, there should be no question there anymore.
In the past, it (kind of) made sense to go around escrow because of drastic fluctuations in bitcoin price. Now, with escrow hedging, there is ABSOLUTELY no reason for anybody to make that request. For me, it is a 100% guarantee that there is something wrong. I don't front my cash in real life, why the fuck would I do it over the internet?
Now, I know that a lot of people are ready to flame this guy and suspect him of no good. I am no shill, I am a regular guy (pretty new to SR) who placed a small sample order with him. I know cocaine very well as I am an avid IV user and have had cocaine in South/Central America as well as across the US, coast to coast. I have a scale and I will be trying the blow as soon as it comes, and believe me, you guys will hear about it.
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Believe me there is quality control tests going on.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Guys, he is working within the escrow system. We can drop the issue because it's not there :)
I noticed that he has in the past requested out of escrow payment, but I PMed him and he replied that he is now within the system. So, there should be no question there anymore.
In the past, it (kind of) made sense to go around escrow because of drastic fluctuations in bitcoin price. Now, with escrow hedging, there is ABSOLUTELY no reason for anybody to make that request. For me, it is a 100% guarantee that there is something wrong. I don't front my cash in real life, why the fuck would I do it over the internet?
Now, I know that a lot of people are ready to flame this guy and suspect him of no good. I am no shill, I am a regular guy (pretty new to SR) who placed a small sample order with him. I know cocaine very well as I am an avid IV user and have had cocaine in South/Central America as well as across the US, coast to coast. I have a scale and I will be trying the blow as soon as it comes, and believe me, you guys will hear about it.
You said it yourself, you're new and if you are a person who cautious with their cash you wouldn't accept "bitcoin fluctuation" as an excuse not to use escrow. Now I don't really care how many people tell me he's legit and working through escrow as the only acceptable answer will be from Vortex Milkman himself. If he is going through escrow, why does his 1g listing cost $94 but in the description his charges are $120 per gram and then four other prices for different quantities? Go have a look at the way freedome lists, can't get anymore clearer for a buyer than that and there is no doubt that he uses escrow.
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update: Placed order early Tuesday morning, as of right now it's still processing. I'll probably end up cancelling the order, I really don't want to wait for weeks :-\
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He's staying within escrow with everyone though right?
No one is getting ripped off, ATM?
nomad bloodbath
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^ I personally did not have to go outside of escrow. He never even suggested it.
By the way, vmm just got back to me and my order is shipping today ;D So, I'll be eagerly awaiting it and will report back.
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So my order still says "processing." At this point, if it hasn't been shipped I'm going to cancel the order.
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this vendor asked me to go outside escrow because its my first transaction.
i feel that's fair enough but then i read this post.. doesn't give you the best feeling about it
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this vendor asked me to go outside escrow because its my first transaction.
Great. Just great. It's starting again.
On Friday evening, he said it would go out the next morning (Saturday 8/27).
Monday it was still not ‘in transit’ so I messaged him. Tuesday he said he got a lot of orders but mine just went out. He will send a tracking number as soon as he got home.
Now it’s Thursday morning, no tracking number. But it was marked in transit.
Is it or isn’t it? He knows but he’s not saying. He won’t answer my last message asking for the DCN number…which HE promised to send me.
If this is a legitimate seller, then Daffy Duck might as well set up shop here.
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If it was really sent when he promised, I should get it today based on shipping time (even coast to coast) for my prior orders from legitimate sellers.
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Jesus christ, you guys are all going to eat your words.
Thats all I gotta say.
Totally unfair, u guys return to bashing me ?
Wow, why dont you try checkin ur msgs F104....
Ur actin like you're never going to get it.
Lol, chill
EVERYONE IS GETTING THEIR SHIT, regardless of the delays I messaged you about which was due to the influx of orders, and my methods of shipping,
PATIENCE.
I AM HERE FOR YOU.
Very disapoointing to see you saying shit about Daffy Duck and etc...come on F104
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reaching for popcorn...
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I'm just waiting for someone like F104 to post he's received and its good/great quality.. or anyone else.. Would love a source for d-meth but if F104 doesn't get his, i guess the searching continues..
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I know it's a holiday weekend and everything, but I'm anxious to hear how everything goes through.. So if VortexMilkMan doesn't get anything soon, should I definitely wait for him and NOT go with TimeTraveler? I don't really want to use TimeTraveler, but I'd like to place an order soon.. But if VMM's quality is good and shipping is possibly faster, it's probably worth the wait! :P
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I know it's a holiday weekend and everything, but I'm anxious to hear how everything goes through.. So if VortexMilkMan doesn't get anything soon, should I definitely wait for him and NOT go with TimeTraveler? I don't really want to use TimeTraveler, but I'd like to place an order soon.. But if VMM's quality is good and shipping is possibly faster, it's probably worth the wait! :P
Go with Voretexmilkman I will be sampling his meth in a couple hours.
Look out for a report on his profile and his Meth thread. :D
nomad bloodbath
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Vortexmilkman asked me to not only go out of escrow, but to use 3rd party services to post address, and not use pgp. Somewhat worrying. Will reply once everything is said and done.
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I know it's a holiday weekend and everything, but I'm anxious to hear how everything goes through.. So if VortexMilkMan doesn't get anything soon, should I definitely wait for him and NOT go with TimeTraveler? I don't really want to use TimeTraveler, but I'd like to place an order soon.. But if VMM's quality is good and shipping is possibly faster, it's probably worth the wait! :P
Go with Voretexmilkman I will be sampling his meth in a couple hours.
Look out for a report on his profile and his Meth thread. :D
nomad bloodbath
Been sampling his meth for quite some time right around 24 hours since I got it. :P
nomad bloodbath
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and this asshat wonders why people are dragging their feet finalizing.
karma is a bitch sometimes.
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Asshat?
Thanks for your mature contribution
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Asshat?
Thanks for your mature contribution
I think he's speaking to the guy who fucked up your rep
without realizing that you're making good for it.
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and this asshat wonders why people are dragging their feet finalizing.
karma is a bitch sometimes.
You should see how he talks to me in his messages before the sale vs. after. It's all about him.
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Ordered a gram of hash with a free marijuana lollipop from Vortexmilkman.
will update as transaction progresses.
So far, it's been 3 days and it is still processing.
Looking forward to it as I have not had any hash in years and never tried weed candy before.
vortex don't list what you can't package and send in a single day please, it saves you and everyone else a lot of hassle...get caught up and proceed confidently that you have done the best job possible for each customer.
This should be your true goal as a vendor.
:D
vortexmilkman
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Ordered 1g Hash now on day 19 never received item. He had me finalize early before sending. I'm in no way saying he scammed me but I can't even get a response from him about anything regarding this. This is within US to US so I'm not sure what the deal is. If I could just get a response from him I'd be cool, I know sometimes things can take longer than expected. Out of the 8 transactions I've done from various vendors on SR this is the only one I haven't received anything or got any communication back from. Hoping this gets cleared up and I'll report back results.
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Hey sensa, check your reply.
Your order is handled, and you will receive it ;)
I have been out of town for over a week, with only one chance to handle orders in between..
I am about to post a status update for the very few clients that have pending ship-outs.
Everything else is smooth-sailing.
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No problem bud, shit happens. Thanks for your response. I'll report back here once received.
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Ordered a gram of hash from VMM a couple weeks ago. He asked for me to finalize early since it was my first transaction & I obliged. Five days later I asked for an update, he said he would ship that day. Another 4 days pass and I again ask for an update. At that point he told me he had been out of town & not filling orders, but would ship that day (Friday).
Pack received Tuesday, so this was sitting in the postal center for a holiday weekend. Opened it up to find a folded piece of cardboard floating inside, along with a bindle in a vac-pack. The heat-seal had gone over both the bindle and a small piece of hash inside it, and the vac-seal was broken.
The product, upon inspection was rock hard & black, with the aroma of schwa resin. Weight on a mg scale came to .905mg. Smoking does taste a bit like smoke & soap like mentioned in the listing, but effects are very light, a swelling behind the eyes and a mild cerebral buzz. No sedative or medicinal effects to be mentioned (though effects are admittedly often subjective).
I messaged about the problems, and he got sarcastic and defensive. He declined my offer of 50% refund, I declined his offer to ship more product.
That's my honest experience.
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Wow, well, as I stated to you and the very few people who had pending orders this week.
I WAS AWAY AND DID NOT PERSONALLY OVERSEE OR PACK THE ORDERS LIKE USUAL.
I AM BACK NOW AND EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL.
Well, hope you update, since you actually did accept my reship.
I've never come across someone who didn't like this strain of hash I offer.
First of all, This isn't the only strain of hash, nor conentrate I have in stock.
I have a variety of oils, waxes, hash shatter, and other CA based prop 215 medicinal products.
I challenge you to say anything about my new reups :)
Anyway, just to prove you wrong, You, HDD-Magic will receive free product, and receive it much faster and to your satisfaction this time.
Hope you become a fan :)
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I've had few transactions with VortexMilkMan, but they have always been very smooth with prompt delivery, very discreet packaging, and excellent, overweight product.
I'm not saying anyone is wrong or anything, I just wanted to say that he's always been good to me so far..
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I haven't had any issues either. Quality product, timely shipping, and good packaging for each order. He just needs to sell some more shards and all will be well. ;D
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To follow up, it's been a week now since VMM made the above promise... no package arrived.
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Well, to be honest, this is my first time beign able to log into SR, since, and since I delete all addresses and msgs with info of addresses, etc. for your SAFETY.....I do not have your address....please feel free to message me with the info and I will keep to my word.
.... 8)
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Hey sensa, check your reply.
Your order is handled, and you will receive it ;)
I have been out of town for over a week, with only one chance to handle orders in between..
I am about to post a status update for the very few clients that have pending ship-outs.
Everything else is smooth-sailing.
Hey sorry I didn't reply back earlier, was hectic getting on here after all the .onion site attacks and what not by Anonymous. I did indeed get it that weekend and it was exactly as described, even a little extra weight. Thanks for the communication and response, glad you 're back to business!
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Can an established forum member PM me Vortex's public key? I want to order something from him but his profile doesn't have a key, and I'm sure you guys know why I'd rather get an established key rather than PM'ing him for one.
Thanks!
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Can an established forum member PM me Vortex's public key? I want to order something from him but his profile doesn't have a key, and I'm sure you guys know why I'd rather get an established key rather than PM'ing him for one.
Thanks!
He doesn't have one as far as I know.
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Can an established forum member PM me Vortex's public key? I want to order something from him but his profile doesn't have a key, and I'm sure you guys know why I'd rather get an established key rather than PM'ing him for one.
Thanks!
He doesn't have one as far as I know.
Well, that's a boatload of fail.
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Nothing very new to say - just adding some positive words to this thread about Vortex for future readers looking for info. My two orders from Vortex have been great. The shipping was quick and product just awesome - nice and clean. And he even chipped in a little overweight bonus for finalizing early on my first order (again, I was a newbie so I understood he was being careful, and his reviews were great). I will definitely order from him again, and recommend to anyone.